Fuel pump works guys. Had the car running today with the new "ground" wire attached to the chassis. Now, I just have to wait to get new tank straps and take it out for a run. While running today, Check Engine Light came on. Not too worried about that right now. Only thing looking for now is why this dilemma is happening. Thanks SSEi95 for hooking me up with those charts. The schematics of the fuel relay etc help alot. Just wish I had those the day before. Speaking of over pricing... My local Dodge dealership wanted to charge me $350 for a fuel system flush, and a power steering flush on my 2002 Neon. They said that the PS fluid looked a little brownish. I told them that the PS pump was replaced last year because of a run in with a deer. So, I told them to **** off. God I hate dealerships.

Autozone $99.99 MASTER fuel pump.

After talkin with a few ham buddies on another website, I have finally found the problem!! On the drivers side floor is a bundle of wires. Inside the bundle is a 7 connector ground terminal. This connector uses I guess a shorting bar which grounds everything together. Take a look at the pictures... http://home.twcny.rr.com/kc2jga/. After cleaning all the contacts, I removed the temporary ground wire from the fuel pump harness and the car fired up first time. No issues, even after yanking on the ground harness. Hopefully the administrators of this site will be kind enough to turn this thread into a sticky?!
Thanks again everyone!!!
Mike

You motivated me to check mine. Ran out there and yanked it up, looks brand new. Something weird though...While I was digging around yanking on wires a red light caught my eye. I looked up and hanging from under the dash was a red LED flashing on the end of a wire. It was professional looking (although just hanging there) and had a mount and everything but nowhere within reach of it to have mounted it. Its just like a little alien hanging down...real weird....I've put lots of time in this car and I've never noticed it before. Do bonnevilles come with the little red flashing light or is that some aftermarket thing thats hiding under my dash??

I would trace to see where it goes! Let us know!!

Yeah I tried to, it disaprears at the firewall. I have no idea where it goes or what it plugs into. Here'* a pic:



Is it not threadjacking if the problem was fixed? haha

I know I know, you guys want those codes... in due time I will have those.
k, here goes, got the fuel pump issue fixed and now the check engine light is coming on.
1. Before fuel pump went bad, car ran fine, NO CEL
2. After fuel pump went, dealership diagnosed bad fuel pump(we know different now)
3. Found bad ground in driverside wire bundle(fixed it)
4. Reinstalled everything, reconnected battery, car starts fine, idles fine, then after about 10 seconds, CEL comes on.
When codes are stored in computer, are they permanent, or can they be cleared by disconnecting the battery? Did I miss something or did the dealership try to do a f***keroo on me by doing something to my car hoping to get more money? Thanks again guys,
Mike
ADMIN
sorry about the double post.

Looks like it might be a security light, like part of an alarm system. My cousin'* chevy beretta has one above his cd player. It seems to be an aftermarket install but he got the car at auction and without a remote for alarm. Oh well, maybe someone tried to do that on yours, or even maybe did get it done? Trace it back and see if it comes from one module or something under the dash and see if that module says security or alarm system or anything of the sort. good luck
mike diaz
'87 Pontiac Bonnevilllle.

NEVERMIND!!! I figured it out today. Some how or another, the fuse on the right passenger side lable, CRUISE/MISC ENG was missing. How it became missing, I am not sure. Maybe the dealership took it out, or maybe I took it out while diagnosing the fuel pump. I kept popping the fuel pump fuse while using jumpers at the fuel tank. While this fuse was out. The cruise did not work, nor the A/C and the CEL would come on. Now they both work and the CEL no longer comes on. Does anyone know what else this fuse is tied into? Its a 15AMP fuse. Thanks again guys!
Mike

Just to throw in a comment on fuel pump replacement. My buddy got his replaced by a dealer. A 96 Pontiac Firebird w/3.8 and it cost him around 900. So 450 sounded like a heck of a deal. Replacing it on your own ia usually too much trouble for what it is worth for your spare time.
later.
KK