i may have killed the car
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i may have killed the car
so... it aint my fault but here'* what i did:
i ripped the motor apart and marked where the bolts came from and the connecters came from
i changed the timing chain
i bent a thin peice of metal on the inside of the harmonic, but i put it back really close to where it came from
i had to pull out the spark plugs to put the engine at TDC, i didnt mark which was which, but i doubt they could be put back wrong being that they are of different lengths and only reach so far
i put the car back together
i let it sit for a week
yesterday it wouldnt turn over so i charged the battery (i was bumping the radio wile wrenchin)
today it turns over fine but wont start
it sounds like its not firing at all
where should i start looking for mess ups?
i ve changed timing chains before so its probably not in that part itself but im suspecting its the metal i bent.. i have no idea what it was for which means it was important to this car
i ripped the motor apart and marked where the bolts came from and the connecters came from
i changed the timing chain
i bent a thin peice of metal on the inside of the harmonic, but i put it back really close to where it came from
i had to pull out the spark plugs to put the engine at TDC, i didnt mark which was which, but i doubt they could be put back wrong being that they are of different lengths and only reach so far
i put the car back together
i let it sit for a week
yesterday it wouldnt turn over so i charged the battery (i was bumping the radio wile wrenchin)
today it turns over fine but wont start
it sounds like its not firing at all
where should i start looking for mess ups?
i ve changed timing chains before so its probably not in that part itself but im suspecting its the metal i bent.. i have no idea what it was for which means it was important to this car
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another thing i remember, i pulled the spark plugs out, and pulled off the plug wires because they annoyed me
i didnt however mark them in any fashion
so i looked in my haynes manual for the fireing order and the like, but the manual doesnt show the exact setup i have
the closest it comes is what it calls a "1986 to 1988 3.8L Type II" but on the diagram the spark terminals on top are shifted to the back of the motor while mine are shifted to the front
i have the wires in as the diagram dictates but the motor still doesnt start i am however getting a sound, alost like its half firing but just not there
i didnt however mark them in any fashion
so i looked in my haynes manual for the fireing order and the like, but the manual doesnt show the exact setup i have
the closest it comes is what it calls a "1986 to 1988 3.8L Type II" but on the diagram the spark terminals on top are shifted to the back of the motor while mine are shifted to the front
i have the wires in as the diagram dictates but the motor still doesnt start i am however getting a sound, alost like its half firing but just not there
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You have a Vin 3 engine, right?
642
351
ignition
module
2 4 6
Front ENGINE
1 3 5
Check the VIN number on your car... Are you saying that the ignition module is on the grill side of the engine and not the firewall? If it is a VIN C, 1, L, or K then it looks like this:
36
52 Ignition
14 Module
642
351
ignition
module
2 4 6
Front ENGINE
1 3 5
Check the VIN number on your car... Are you saying that the ignition module is on the grill side of the engine and not the firewall? If it is a VIN C, 1, L, or K then it looks like this:
36
52 Ignition
14 Module
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as far as i know i do have a Vin #3 engine
heres what my spark connections look like:
http://theboystx.tripod.com/bonnevillecoilpack.htm
DeathRat, how do i check the sensors themselves? the connections look good
heres what my spark connections look like:
http://theboystx.tripod.com/bonnevillecoilpack.htm
DeathRat, how do i check the sensors themselves? the connections look good
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i put the wires in the order the manual says, but doesnt even sound like its starting
im betting the manual has the wrong order
im betting the manual has the wrong order
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all the connections are on the same side of the coil packs
but i cant make sense of your above post
the manual says they should be 3 6 2 5 4 1 left to right from the front of the car
but i cant make sense of your above post
the manual says they should be 3 6 2 5 4 1 left to right from the front of the car
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This is what a Vin 3 engine looks like - That'* why I am confused... Look at the ignition module towards the right rear of the engine. Your VIN number should say something like:
1G2HX5K "3" X .....
I guess if you look closely all of the wires do appear to be in a line, instead of one on each side. I would think it would alternate, as in 1 to the front, then 1 to the back, then 1 to the front, and so on... My key looks a little more staggered, but you could interpret it to mean 365412.
1G2HX5K "3" X .....
I guess if you look closely all of the wires do appear to be in a line, instead of one on each side. I would think it would alternate, as in 1 to the front, then 1 to the back, then 1 to the front, and so on... My key looks a little more staggered, but you could interpret it to mean 365412.